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Further Questions: Do you ask candidates to address Equity, Diversity and Inclusion at any point in the hiring process?

Each week (or thereabouts) I ask a question to a group of people who hire library and LIS workers. If you have a question to ask or if you’d like to be part of the group that answers, shoot me an email at hiringlibrariansATgmail.

This week’s question is:

Do you ask candidates to address Equity, Diversity and Inclusion at any point in the hiring process? If so, please tell us a little bit about what the prompt is, when it is asked, and what you are looking for in the response.


Elizabeth “Beth” Cox, Director, Cataloging, Metadata & Digitization Dept., University of Iowa Libraries: Yes. We ask for a statement regarding diversity, equity, access, and inclusion for our librarian positions and it is a required part of the application process, along with the cover letter and resume. The prompt is:

The University of Iowa Libraries welcomes and serves all, including people of color from all nations, immigrants, people with disabilities, LGBTQ+, and the most vulnerable in our community. We safeguard the human right to access information. We offer educational resources that promote diversity, equity, access, and inclusion, and we strive to build collections that reflect all points of view on current and historical issues. Include an applicant statement to include examples of ways you have advanced diversity, equity, access, and inclusion in the workplace or community or provide other evidence of your demonstrated commitment to diversity.

I am looking for how the applicant has applied DEIA to a specific area of their current position or involvement in DEIA-related work, such as library or university committees. The former can be difficult for technical services staff, since our direct impact on the public can be limited. Because the DEIA statements are not shared beyond the search committee, candidates are often asked in the on-site interview process to talk about how they have applied DEIA in their current position.


Kellee Forkenbrock, Public Services Librarian, North Liberty Community Library: Indeed – our library (like many across the nation) is very committed to DEI efforts and ask pointed questions about it in our interviewing process. One such question we ask is, “Describe a situation when you had to consider someone’s cultural perspective during an interaction or with them or when providing customer service to them.” Allowing candidates to provide real-life examples of their work in this spectrum connects the cause with the work.


Laurie Phillips, Associate Dean of Libraries, J. Edgar & Louise S. Monroe Library, Loyola University New Orleans: I looked back at the questions from our last library faculty search and I didn’t see any questions that particularly addressed DEI concerns. However, the person we hired has been working with us to develop DEI statements, especially with regard to some of the archival materials he works with. When we hire, because we are at a Jesuit institution, we often focus on the Jesuit values, such as cura personalis (care for the whole person) and social justice. While those aren’t specifically DEI-related questions, they can give a candidate a place to discuss those values and a particular approach. Our student body has high financial need and is a high percentage of first generation college students, so we often end up discussing how the library supports students in difficult circumstances who need support.


Anonymous: We have just started asking this question during every interview: “Diversity and inclusion are important values in our library. Can you tell us about how you have been able to learn about or apply these concepts in your work or everyday life?”

In the response, I’m looking for at minimum general awareness of diversity issues and privilege. I don’t need candidates to divulge anything personal if they don’t want to, and we’ve tried to keep the question relatively broad to give people a chance to talk about a range of possible things depending on their comfort level. I’m listening for responses that demonstrate that a candidate has at least a basic working knowledge of more recent thinking about how to engage respectfully with others in a diverse world. I like answers where people also acknowledge the need to continually keep learning (we all do!). Many people say they had diversity training at their last job, which is not an awful answer, but I’d always then like to hear what they learned or took away from that training. I’m also watching for people who really flounder. We have had some candidates tell us that they “don’t see color” or similar statements, or use outdated terminology to talk about minority groups. That is always a major red flag.


Alan Smith, Director, Florence County, SC Library System: Yes, in a couple of different ways. For professional positions dealing with supervision, collection management, or programming and community outreach, we ask questions tailored to those areas: How do you plan programs for a target audience whose background is different than yours? How do you make sure your collection offers something for everyone in our diverse community? In your previous positions what actions did you take to promote equity and inclusion? And so on.  Sometimes we will get answers that are very general or hint that the candidate has never made any proactive efforts in this area. A good answer for these questions will include some kind of concrete action: changing who is involved in the planning process, partnering with a specific organization, etc. And an answer that shows you did research about the library and the community is always very helpful.


Anonymous: Over the past few years, we have seen an increased focus on EDI in the hiring process and I have seen a variety of ways libraries have asked about EDI, often relating directly in some way to the position but sometimes more broadly. Some of them are tied to library or institutional goals and they want to ensure that new employees will be ready to commit to working toward those goals. Some goals are intangible but are clearly trying to create an anti-racist culture while others are concrete, growing the collection in EDI areas, for instance.

Hopefully, you have some great ideas when it comes to ways the library can better serve patrons in a wide array of EDI areas and you should certainly be ready to share those ideas. However, being an outsider, it can be a challenge to come up with ideas that would be specifically relevant to that library/region unless that is asked directly or you are provided that context upfront. To a large degree, it may be more about how familiar the candidate is with EDI initiatives, ways in which libraries can work toward EDI projects, etc.

I have heard complaints from hiring committee members at various libraries say that these questions are a challenge because it is hard to rate the responses on a matrix and often it feels like that is where things end and it feels kind of hollow. It feels like something they thought they had to ask but don’t really have an idea of what kind of response they are looking for. One may argue that what you are measuring is their awareness of EDI and their readiness to embrace any EDI goals that have been set forth. Or, that they have ideas about how to develop and implement them when they are hired. For some libraries, these questions serve as a way to determine if the new hire is going to be “on-board”. While it is difficult to determine if one positive response is better than another positive response, it is really easy to tell when someone misses the mark, is not familiar with, or interested in, areas in which EDI would be important in relation to that position. It isn’t so much a matter of figuring out which candidate has the best answer (but it could be), it is more a matter seeing which candidates have thoughtful approaches and, on the flip side, of letting someone who is not going to be interested or willing to push EDI initiatives forward in the library to self-identify themselves.

In some ways, it may be a way to answer the question that we usually try to determine in social settings when we are with candidates, at lunch or on a break, during the interview process but we can’t ask outright so we are listening and watching to look for clues: “When it comes to Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion, what challenges you?”

It reminds me of the #TellMeChallenge on social media. “Tell me you’re a (racist) (homophobe) (misogynist) (classist) (xenophobe) (transphobe) (ableist) …………….. without telling me you’re a (insert selected noun).” So we can show you the door.


We’d love to hear your thoughts here in the comments, on Twitter @HiringLib, or written on a the back of a tortoise dropped on my head by an eagle. If you have a question to ask people who hire library workers, or if you’d like to be part of the group that answers them, shoot me an email at hiringlibrariansATgmail.

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About a Decade Later: Former Job Hunter Amy Seto Forrester

Welcome to a new/old Hiring Librarians feature! From 2012-2016 I ran a survey of job hunters (co-authored by Naomi House of INALJ). It had over 500 responses, including 117 people who were at least initially willing to be non-anonymous. In this series, we check in with these respondents to see where they are doing a decade later. 

Amy Seto Forrester is our first check in. She completed the original survey in 2013 as she was preparing to graduate from Texas Woman’s University and her answers appeared as Creative Freedom/Independence. We followed up with her in December 2014 and learned she actually found her first librarian job about a month before she graduated! 

She is now in her second librarian job, and is supervising and hiring new library workers. She was kind enough to answer the questions below, but you can also learn a lot more about her work as a youth services supervisor, author, and advocate for diverse and engaging children’s books at https://www.amysetoforrester.com/.


Where are you now? What’s your work situation like, and what path did you take to get where you are?

I’m currently a youth services supervisor at Eugene Public Library (OR), a job I’ve had for a year now. I co-supervise a team of 12 library staff (librarians and library assistants) for our downtown location, including two separate spaces: a children’s center and a teen center. We serve youth 0-19 years old and the grown ups in their lives. I also oversee youth programming system-wide, coordinate Summer Reading, select early readers, and am currently coordinating several communal recruitments. Prior to this position, I was a children’s librarian at Denver Public Library (CO) for 8 years. My experience leading large system-wide projects, digging into new reader research, developing programs, doing outreach to schools, and taking part in EDI work laid the foundation for my current job. Additionally, the spaces and demographics are quite similar (large, downtown libraries serving a wide range of needs, including those of many experiencing housing instability and other factors). 

Were any parts of your journey completely unexpected?

Up until 2 years ago I didn’t even want to be a supervisor! But I gradually realized that I not only had the skills to do the job, I also had the drive to be at decision-making tables because I wanted to advocate for youth, especially BIPOC and marginalized youth, and youth farthest from educational justice. Even though I had an amazing supervisor who advocated a lot, I was becoming frustrated by the confines of my position. I was also rather bored and needed more challenges in my work. 

Have you had a chance to hire anyone? If so, what was that like?

I’ve hired for 4 positions in the past year and am currently in the process of hiring 3 more for my department as part of 2 communal recruitments that will ultimately fill 9 positions across our system. The process is fascinating and hopeful and also sometimes very discouraging. Libraries and HR depts are built on white supremacist structures and it can be difficult to dismantle those structures and systemic barriers while also trying to hire staff in a timely fashion, especially in the current hiring landscape. If we don’t move fast enough, we lose candidates, but at the same time urgency is the enemy of EDI work. That said, I’m proud of the work I’ve done to make current systems more equitable, such as changing what we’re looking for/scoring for on supplemental application questions and interview questions, eliminating cover letters and resumes, and pushing to standardize having interview questions sent to candidates ahead of time. 

Do you have any advice for job hunters?

Do your research! Read the job posting and pull out key words and themes, explore the library’s website, look at their social media, if you’re in the area visit the library to get a feel for it, ask your library connections what they know. Then use all this research to inform how you write your cover letter, and answer application and interview questions. 

Connect the dots. People doing the hiring look at a lot of applications, we do our best, but we’re not always good at seeing how your experience/skills/passions can be directly applied to the position we’re hiring for. So it’s in your best interest to connect the dots so we can’t avoid seeing how awesome you’d be at the job. 

Experience counts. Don’t be afraid to highlight your non-library experience, in fact, it can often work in your favor! Part of connecting the dots is showing how your life/work experience applies to the position. Again, connect those dots!

Use your time well. This can go both directions. Don’t say so much for each answer that you water down your message, but at the same time your answer should be more than a couple of sentences. Many interview panels are not allowed to ask follow up questions in an effort to ensure an equitable hiring process. Don’t assume we’ll ask for more. 

Do you have any advice for people who hire LIS folks?

Send the questions in advance. I’ve seen this make a huge difference for candidates because they’re able to process and develop solid answers that give you better insight then off the cuff answers. Also, don’t send them 2 hours in advance (this has happened to me!), give them at least 24 hours or even better, a few days. 

Consider who you’re centering in the wording of your questions, especially EDI questions. Could a question be potentially hooking/triggering for BIPOC and/or marginalized candidates? How might you reword a question to allow candidates to answer authentically? 

Anything else you’d like to tell us?

As someone who identifies as mixed race Chinese American, I want to acknowledge that there are additional concerns for BIPOC and/or marginalized candidates during the hiring process. I encourage you to ask the hiring panel questions about how the library system, as well as your prospective supervisor and their team view EDI work and what support for BIPOC and/or marginalized staff actually looks like. I also want to acknowledge that libraries are built on white supremacist structures and while some libraries/staff have done more work dismantling these structures, the structures continue to exist. There’s no magical utopian library system that I know of (if you find it, let me know!). That said, if your alarm bells are ringing at an interview, first day of work, or anywhere in your career, take note. Take care of yourself, advocate for yourself, and protect yourself (these are not always the same thing). Find your support systems (affinity groups, national orgs, allies within/beyond your system, etc.) and lean on them. I can’t promise your library will be a brave space for you, but I can promise that there are many of us fighting to carve out brave spaces and to invite others in so those spaces can expand. 

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Reminder: Interview Questions Repository & Salary Info

Have you been on a library interview recently? Or are you prepping for one?

Sounds like you could use The Interview Questions Repository!

This resource holds questions that people were asked in interviews from more than 500 respondents over nearly a decade.

Click on the upside down triangle to the right of the question in the header row to sort by things like interview type, position, etc.

Please help this resource grow! Share the link widely with your friends and colleagues and if you’ve had a library interview recently, report the questions you were asked.


Interested in viewing Salary Info from more than 270 LIS workers? The second page of the Interview Questions Repository shares that data. If you are interested in adding your own salary info, please use this form.

If you have feedback, I’d love to hear it. Please feel free to email me or use the contact form.

Please note: The links should give you everything you need – please use and share those rather than requesting access through Google Drive. You can always find these links in the static pages listed in the tabs up top (Interview Questions and Salary Info).

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A View of the Yellow Repository. The National Archives (UK), CC BY 3.0 https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0, via Wikimedia Commons

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Job Hunter’s Web Guide: CILIP Careers Hub

This is part of our series, Job Hunter’s Web Guide, which profiles online resources for LIS job hunters.

It’s been interesting for this American to get a few glimpses into librarianship in other countries. The UK’s main association for librarians is CILIP (the Chartered Institute of Library and Information Professionals). I recently corresponded with their Workforce Development Manager, Helen Berry, to put together this profile. Please enjoy learning a bit about CILIP’s efforts, history, and goals around supporting library careers in the UK.

What is it? Please give us your elevator speech!
The CILIP Careers Hub is a dedicated area of the CILIP website with resources, support and guidance for those seeking a job in the information profession. It covers all stages of the career journey and is freely accessible to members and non-members alike.

The CILIP Job Board, Information Professional Jobs, is part of our Careers Hub and carries the largest number of LIS jobs in the UK. The roles cover the sectors of Academia, Health, Government, Public, Schools, Legal, Commercial and Special Collections.13000 people visit the site each month.

When was it started? Why was it started?
The job board was born out of a fortnightly jobs print supplement that went out to CILIP members from the Sixties right up until 2010. Initially entitled LISJOBNET.com, it rebranded in 2018 to align the brand with the membership journal and became Information Professional Jobs.

Who runs it?
CILIP, the library and information association.

Are you a “career expert”? What are your qualifications?
CILIP is the UK library and information association. We support, unite and develop information professionals and librarians across all sectors- the people who help the world make better decisions.

We also offer ttraining and Continuing Professional Development(CPD) to the profession, accredit LIS courses at Universities in the UK and internationally, led the trailblazer group to develop the Level 3 Library, Information and Archive Services Assistant Apprenticeship Standard for the UK and offer 3 levels of Professional Registration (Certification, Chartership and Fellowship) ourselves, backed by our Royal Charter and Professional Knowledge and Skills Base. Which is a slightly long winded way of saying, “yes, we do know quite a bit about the information profession!”

Who is your target audience?
Anyone working or wishing to work within the library, knowledge and information domains in the UK. Appealing to cross sectoral workers from Academic, Health, Government, Public, Schools, Legal, Commercial and Special Collections.

What’s the best way to use your site? Should users consult it daily? Or as needed? Should they already know what they need help with, or can they just noodle around?
Jobs are added to the site most days. Depending on your level of job-seeking seriousness, there is a mechanism to put you in touch with the latest jobs.

There is a real-time e-alert service that emails users details of jobs that fit their search criteria as they hit the database, so you aren’t inundated with irrelevant posts. You can also opt to receive these alerts hourly/daily or weekly, if you wish.

We also have a weekly e-newsletter that gives details of all the new jobs that week – everything for you to browse. 6,700 subscribe to this e-newsletter. The sign up page is here.

Does your site provide:
√ Job Listings
√ Answers to reader questions
√ Links
√ Research

Should readers also look for you on social media? Or is your content available in other formats?
√ Twitter: @CILIPInfoPJobs
√ Newsletter: Weekly Jobs Round Up

Do you charge for anything on your site?
Not for Jobseekers. Advertising is paid for.

Anything else you’d like to share with my readers about your site in particular, or about library hiring/job hunting in general?

For job hunters – never be afraid to reach out and ask questions. The library and information profession is vast, but full of very friendly people who are more than happy to share their experiences with new professionals. If there’s a particular sector you’re interested in finding out more about, there’s a good chance there’s a CILIP Special Interest Group for that area and our members are always willing to share their knowledge!

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Researcher’s Corner: At the intersection of autism and libraries

I’m really pleased to be able to present this piece by Dr. Amelia Anderson, which details her research into the workforce experiences of autistic librarians. She says something quite important in her second paragraph, 

“In my mind, if more hiring managers and supervisors were aware of some of the issues, practices may improve for autistic librarians. Even just having an understanding that there is neurodiversity within the field is so important; so often we turn outward, and think of services for neurodivergent patrons, when we should also be thinking of inclusive practices for our own staff.” 

If you find this post interesting and would like to read more, seek out the following articles:

Anderson, A. (2021a). Exploring the workforce experiences of autistic librarians through accessible and participatory approaches. Library & Information Science Research, 43(2). https://doi.org/10.1016/j.lisr.2021.101088

 Anderson, A. (2021b). Job Seeking and Daily Workforce Experiences of Autistic Librarians. The International Journal of Information, Diversity, & Inclusion, 5(3), 38-63. https://www.jstor.org/stable/48644446                                                                                   

 If you know of other LIS career resources either for hiring managers to create processes that are more inclusive of neurodivergence, or for LIS job hunters who are themselves neurodivergent, especially if they have been written by neurodivergent LIS folks, I’d love to feature them. Please drop me a line at hiringlibrarians AT gmail.  


I have been studying the intersection of autism and libraries for almost 10 years now, beginning in 2013 when I began the PhD program at Florida State University. At that time, I was hired as a graduate assistant to help create training manuals for librarians to better serve autistic patrons. The project sparked my interest in working with autistic young adults and adults, as I learned how often we focus on children with the diagnosis (which is very important, don’t get me wrong!), but we often forget that autism is lifelong, and a person is still autistic as they grow up. I then focused my dissertation, and served as a postdoctoral scholar, on studying academic library services for autistic college students.

I provide this background here because it is foundational to what happened next. In presenting these projects to audiences of librarians across the country, I found myself continually being pulled aside by librarians who wanted to discuss my work, and then also disclosed their own autism diagnoses. I realized this was something interesting, that deserved exploration, especially when I developed friendships from these conversations and got a firsthand look at some of the unfair advantages neurotypical librarians benefit from when seeking employment and while on the job. In my mind, if more hiring managers and supervisors were aware of some of the issues, practices may improve for autistic librarians. Even just having an understanding that there is neurodiversity within the field is so important; so often we turn outward, and think of services for neurodivergent patrons, when we should also be thinking of inclusive practices for our own staff. 

I decided to take the anecdotal evidence I had from my personal contacts, and embark on a formal research study. I recruited ten librarians who identified as autistic, and asked the same set of questions to each of them, but I let each person choose how they would prefer to participate. In doing so, I wanted to acknowledge communication preferences, allowing each person to feel comfortable in how they participated. I conducted Zoom interviews for most, and a few others submitted their responses as a text document. Of the ten participants in this study, four worked in academic libraries, three in public libraries, one in a school library, and one worked in library services for a federal agency. One recently retired from an academic library.

From the interviews, I addressed the research questions: How do autistic librarians become interested in the library profession? How do autistic librarians describe their job seeking experiences? And, how do autistic librarians describe their workforce experiences?

As I began collecting and analyzing data, I realized the methodology and approaches I used to do so was also important to share with other researchers in the field. As such, I developed a secondary study to explore and report on those approaches, posing the questions: When given options, how do autistic librarians choose to participate in the research process about their working experiences? And, how is data affected by those participant decision?

My first publication from this study presented the experiences of my participants in detail (Anderson, 2021b).

The second publication went into depth about the research process itself (Anderson, 2021a).

Ultimately, I found that many of the autistic librarians I spoke with found their way to the field through previous exposure to or experiences with libraries. They described the librarianship career as fulfilling. However, they also did experience barriers during the job seeking process, as well as in their daily lives on the job. While some requested formal accommodations, others created their own coping or preparation strategies. Many wrestled with issues around disclosure. To alleviate some of those issues, library hiring managers and supervisors should strive to create more universally accessible and accepting environments and processes.

And in the research process itself, though participants used various methods to provide information, the themes that emerged were consistent across data collection methods.

Though exact numbers are impossible to know, there are many autistic librarians, working and working to gain meaningful employment in the field. My hope is that this work has sparked some conversation about the topic, and that hiring and supervising managers will be thoughtful in creating more inclusive practices and spaces.


Dr. Amelia Anderson is an assistant professor of library science at Old Dominion University who has extensive experience on the topics of neurodiversity, disability, and libraries through her work as a public librarian, library researcher, and educator. Amelia is the author of Library Programming for Autistic Children and Teens, 2nd Edition, published by ALA Editions. She was the managing PI on the IMLS planning grant Accessibility in Making (LG-246292-OLS-20), which identified barriers to access in public library makerspaces for patrons with disabilities. Through original research and partnerships with autism self-advocates, Amelia studies and shares best practices and trends at the intersection of autism and libraries and has presented her work at conferences from local to international audiences. Amelia earned her MLIS and Ph.D. from Florida State University.  

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Who are you and why are you here?

Hello Dear Readers!

I am curious about who you are. Will you take my brief poll?

I’m also curious about why you’re reading. Will you take this other brief poll too please?

Thanks!

Hey, if you have anything else you want to say to me, please get in contact. I’d love to chat. You can also comment below, email, or reach out on Twitter. If you’ve got feedback about current work/surveys or requests for future work/surveys, I’d love to hear it.

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Emily

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Further Questions: Do you think virtual interviews are effective hiring tools?

Each week (or thereabouts) I ask a question to a group of people who hire library and LIS workers. If you have a question to ask or if you’d like to be part of the group that answers, shoot me an email at hiringlibrariansATgmail.

This week’s question was prompted by someone who hires librarians:

Do you think virtual (Zoom, WebEx, etc., or even phone) interviews are effective hiring tools? Where are they most helpful and where do they fall short? Would you be willing to hire someone without any in-person meeting? Finally, do you have tips for candidates who are preparing for a virtual interview?


Alan Smith, Director, Florence County, SC Library System: Virtual and telephone interviews are definitely useful hiring tools, but I’ve never based a final hiring decision on those alone. That could be different if our library had positions that worked remotely, or focused exclusively on behind-the-scenes work, but all of our positions require a good deal of face-to-face interpersonal work, even if it’s not always patron-facing (like systems and technical services). Interacting with a candidate in a real space just gives you a more complete picture of how they will interact with other people on the job. 

To me virtual interviews are most useful as pre-screening or follow-up tools. I may do shorter virtual interviews with a wider pool of candidates to narrow down the selections for a longer in-person interview. This is especially helpful when a candidate would need to travel a good distance. I’ve also used virtual interviews after the full round of in-person interviews, to go deeper into a certain topic or ask follow-up questions. This can be helpful when candidates are nearly equally qualified and the hiring decision is very close. 


Anonymous: I love this question. I was interviewed over the phone (before video conferencing was really a thing), got the job and worked there for 3 1/2 years. Part of why I think it was a successful interview was that it did not try to be an in-person. At the end it was a bit more casual  because we were talking on the phone (and I was sitting comfortably on my couch in yoga pants and a hoodie). With that being said, I think that virtual interviews can be successful. I am, however, going to tell you about how a WebEx interview that I was on a hiring committee for went terribly wrong. 

Everyone was having internet issues, so the interview started late. Two of us were in the room together, one hiring committee member was on the video call as was the interviewee. 

There was a weird delay and the interviewee was not comfortable speaking into the computer microphone. The person not in the room with us could not hear the interviewee very well and kept asking them to repeat themselves. It was super annoying and we (the people together) got a little giggly. Something happened in the background of the interviewer so they started looking away from the camera which the interviewee could see. I accidentally asked the same question twice (this made us even more giggly) and at the end of the interview the interviewee did not mute their mic (maybe on purpose) and said “f*&k this place” as they were getting off the call.

Now to go back to your question(s). I think virtual interviews are fine if everyone agrees that stuff might happen during it to make it less professional. I have hired folks that I didn’t meet in-person until they were standing in front of me on the first day of work. 

Tips. Tips. Tips???

Practice on a zoom call and ask your friend to be the interviewer. Find a place that gives you good lighting, quiet, and where you feel comfortable. I think it is okay if your cat sticks their butt on the camera during the call as long as it doesn’t disrupt your answers or throw you off your game. Wear something you feel good in even if the interviewer(s) won’t see it. 

Since the pandemic I think it has gotten (I am saying this cautiously) easier with virtual interviews. And dare I say that with the flexibility of interviewing virtually for positions that have a virtual component to them it will show how the candidate presents in that medium.  


Gemma Doyle, Collection Development Manager, EBSCO: Since the pandemic our team has been permanently remote, and our company as a whole has switched to an either hybrid or remote structure for employees. Our last hire was the first one I’d done that was for a fully remote job, although we’ve hired people using virtual interviews for years before the pandemic, since a lot of roles are specialized and required national searches. It is so much easier doing virtual interviews now than it was in 2019 – everyone is more comfortable with the technology, and the technology itself has gotten better and easier to use, so the last experience was kind of night and day even though we were using the same programs. I won’t lie: I love virtual interviews. I feel like everyone is more comfortable in their space than they would be if we arranged meetings in person, and the more comfortable you are, the more authentic the conversation will be. Since the job is remote anyway, how I interact with a candidate in a virtual interview over Teams is how we’re going to interact every day at work over Teams, so I don’t think I’m missing any nuance as I might be if the job were in person.

The only advice I feel like I can give to candidates based on the interviews I’ve done lately is that virtual interviews can feel very forced and are very difficult to capture a casual, warm vibe by interviewer or candidate. I do my best as the interviewer, but I’m not always sure how much of it comes across. When it comes to backgrounds, I 100% blur my own and understand when people do it, but if candidates can find a place where they don’t have to, it can be a nice way to showcase some of your personality and make me feel like I know something about you. Being able to roll with technical issues is important, too.


Laurie Phillips, Interim Dean of Libraries, J. Edgar & Louise S. Monroe Library, Loyola University New Orleans: I do think that Zoom interviews can be effective and I believe they have been effective hiring tools for us. During the pandemic, we used them exclusively. There are some quirks and I think the candidate sometimes is more rattled when there are technological difficulties. Zoom interviews are far more effective, I believe, than phone. You get to virtually meet one another and it’s just a different vibe. I think there are two places where they fall short – one is that the candidate never gets to see the workplace or meet people face to face. That could certainly be an issue for an administrative position, or even a completely front facing position. The other is when the candidate would normally have a full day of interviewing with different groups. I think it’s a bit harder for someone to interview or meet with a smaller group who are not the search committee over Zoom. That said, I think it can work. I have done follow-up interviews by Zoom (after an in person interview with the committee) to help the hiring manager make a final decision and I believe the candidate was much more relaxed with me one-on-one on Zoom. In terms of preparation, make sure your technology is working and that there are no distracting background noises. Obviously, it can’t be helped if suddenly your neighbor decides to rent a jackhammer for the day, but you could move to a less noisy place in your house, or maybe ask your neighbor to take a 30 minute break. Dress nicely and either use a Zoom background or check what’s going to be in the background of your Zoom call. Animals are less of a concern – who doesn’t love a cat wanting treats in the middle of a meeting? But, a continuously barking dog is more distracting than your dog wandering in while you’re on Zoom. 


Celia Rabinowitz, Dean of Mason Library, Keene State College: We have not been able to do any hiring in over two years so we did no virtual interviewing. I did participate on the search committee for a new provost for our campus which is entirely virtual so I have that perspective. I have always been conflicted about phone interviews having been on both sides of the process. But I think they can be useful parts of a search. I would be that all of us have had a really good phone interview with someone whose in-person visit was not as good and vice-versa. I think both of those outcomes are what make a phone/virtual interview useful. The virtual piece (with or without video) and the in-person together provide ways to experience communication styles. If questions are provided in advance then there is the chance to assess preparedness (sometimes candidates don’t sound as if they have done a lot of preparation). The in-person interview then has opportunities for the search committee to see more spontaneous thinking from candidates.
The in-person portion of an interview isn’t just about the person and the job. The candidate sees the campus and its surroundings, likely meets more people than they might virtually, and can really see the library. I still think that is an important part of the process, especially if a search is nation-wide and most new hires would make a move. As an academic librarian I also acknowledge that, at least for library faculty positions, the college bears the cost of travel for an interview (and for others we would at least reimburse mileage). Perhaps we will move toward talking a hybrid approach that would allow candidates and search committees to work together to decide on the optimum schedule that could take into account weather, whatever public health situation may be in play, or other factors.


Julie Todaro, Dean, Library Services, Austin Community College:

Do you think virtual (Zoom, WebEx, etc., or even phone) interviews are effective hiring tools? 

I think “digital” opportunities are very effective as long as they allow for visual connections. AND, it is important to say here, I don’t care what the person looks like but this medium will be the one they use to conduct the critical part of their interview where they teach us (as if we were their students) and an awareness of software issues and packages, their knowledge of pedagogy conducive to online learning and their knowledge or even their familiarity with how one teaches and engages online is critical to their success at my institution. 

And while I might narrow down a pool of applicants through a conference call or phone interview, I would not use a phone interview only to hire. 

Where are they most helpful and where do they fall short? 

My answers to this question have completely changed in the last two years or at least expanded to include the fact that someone applying for a faculty librarian position with us absolutely should have had the experience or education – whether formal, informal or self taught – with online services in an educational sector. The  most helpful aspects include:

  • increased interview pool for us based on our lack of funding to bring many people in (and pay for some or all of them)
  • increased interview pool for applicants who may be coming from farther away or may not have the funding to pay for some of their travel (if needed) and possibly be in a position where they aren’t able to take off work to travel somewhere for a day or two
  • the opportunity for applicants to display a number of competencies in an unusual and more typical work setting (now that there IS so much online teaching)
  • multiple levels to impress the committee on what they can do…navigate and engage as well as answer questions and design content
  • more people as finalists – that is, it becomes impossible to bring in – for example – 8 applicants who deserve to be finalists – but organizing 8 applicants time and our time for online – even if they are a 1/2 day “ish” each – is very easy to do
  • more people and a wider group involved in hiring as “stepping out of a standard work day” is easier for a larger group and a more group with many more diverse levels can step away

Where digital interviewing falls short includes:

  • NOW there are many more software packages offer these experiences and they vary dramatically in “bells and whistles”…so while one organization may provide a variety – most do not provide as “many out there” as needed…at one point we had five or six different ways to connect so we felt confident that applicants COULD choose which package to use, etc. but many can’t and even ours have decreased. Applicants being versed in their package but not in yours puts up roadblocks that are often insurmountable.
  • Visual digital experiences like Zoom are not all equal among products of course but absolutely within a single product and there are a variety of levels of access so use of one and making sure all of the right information gets to applicants and committee members is critical. As software upgrades take place, links in some packages appear in different places, and some aspects of the service are not available and it is NOT uncommon to bring an interview to a halt as the software isn’t able to do what the applicant diligently prepared.
  • Our database packages do not allow for remote guest access – only in-person guest access. This means that an applicant not working somewhere where they have the access to online materials that they want or think they need – at the level or content area they think they need – may be a drawback for them. 
  • Two of the most difficult things we know about in higher ed are the engagement of online audiences or classes and the application of online active learning pedagogy online. Given the variety of ways people learn AND our own institution’s constituent group – audiences may be equally uncomfortable online and no matter what – find it hard to engage or be actively involved in their educational process – creating a roadblock for teaching success.
  • Many applying do have the access or bandwidth they need in terms of equipment age, privacy, speed, sound issues, etc. Lacking in tech opportunities and a good location can create a major problem.

Are these insurmountable? Absolutely not, they just require more specific work not only by those organizing but by all participating. 

Would you be willing to hire someone without any in-person meeting? 

Yes and we did and continue to do so and have been extremely pleased. It has taken more time to get to where we all want to go, but we have hired some very successful employees who have been a perfect fit – at all levels. I should also say that many years ago we convinced our HR department – for all of the reasons above – to let us narrow down finalists with a virtual interview and that was very successful. We did not – therefore – consider it a major leap – to move to a complete interview and – frankly – I was afraid of the impending timeline of the pandemic and the fact that many times – as a pandemic wears on – organizations cut staff or freeze positions. I did not want that to happen and luckily it did not and we hired some great people.

Finally, do you have tips for candidates who are preparing for a virtual interview?

The same due diligence is needed by applicants who need to prepare for interviews by looking very specifically at the organization and those employed prior to even deciding if they want to interview – much less applying. Then they should:

  • the review of the umbrella organization or parent group 
  • the review of the community or the constituent group of the organization or general environmental area
  • review the pro and con list above to determine aspects that work and don’t for them specifically
  • online content availability and what the organization requires for the interview vs what they can make available
  • software packages and the version of packages
  • what best practices for online interviews are in general and does the organization reveal its goals or values beforehand in emails? in their values statements? in their online “About us” ?
  • the ever-important dry runs where people practice with someone “at the other end” or practices with another person who IS remote so they can tell you if the clothes, etc. work
  • dressing for the interview as if you were there in person
  • if handouts are required, send those in advance if at all possible
  • experimenting with lighting…on or off, natural light or not…visuals available in contrast….using materials in back of you? etc.
  • experimenting with background…on or off, etc….a blank wall if often better than the fuzzy image or the one where every time you move your head, part of you disappears
  • fully engaging with the software and if not available asking questions about their version AND trying to get on early or the day before to make sure you understand what is available

Clearly I am a big supporter and think it can enhance the interview process for many positions in the organization.


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Confident, energetic, focused, poised

Photograph of Dr. Hermann Robinton, Assistant to the State Librarian, Albany, New York, Turning over to Dr. Wayne C. Grover, Archivist of the United States, Some of New York’s Most Treasured Documents to be Preserved and Rehabilitated for Display on New York’s Freedom Train. National Archives.

This anonymous interview is with someone who hires for a:

√ Archives

√ Public Library

Title: Head of Special Collections

Titles hired include: Archivist (I-III), Lead Archivist, Librarian (I-IV), Senior Library Specialist

Who makes hiring decisions at your organization:

√ HR

√ Library Administration

√ The position’s supervisor

√ A Committee or panel 

Which of the following does your organization regularly require of candidates?

√ Online application 

√ References

√ Proof of degree

√ Supplemental Questions 

√ Demonstration (teaching, storytime, etc)

√ More than one round of interviews 

Does your organization use automated application screening? 

√ Yes 

Briefly describe the hiring process at your organization and your role in it:

Referred applications from (non-library) HR sent to hiring manager. Revise/update job posting and interview questions. Select applicants for interview. Interview with a panel. Score and select candidates for either an offer or second round interviews (dependent on position). Reference check, including request for copies of transcripts. HR completes background check and offer.

Think about the last candidate who really wowed you, on paper, in an interview, or otherwise. Why were they so impressive?

Confident, energetic, focused, poised, had clearly done their research about the organization and the position.

What do you wish you could know about candidates that isn’t generally revealed in the hiring process?

Workplace preferences and current work/professional priorities

How many pages should each of these documents be?

Cover Letter: √ Only One!  

Resume: √ As many as it takes, but keep it reasonable and relevant 

CV: √ As many as it takes, but keep it reasonable and relevant 

What is the most common mistake that people make in an interview?

Not researching the organization, not being  familiar with the job posting

Do you conduct virtual interviews? What do job hunters need to know about shining in this setting?

Yes. Test out your setup ahead of time. Just like with in-person presentations, have a back up plan.

How can candidates looking to transition from paraprofessional work, from non-library work, or between library types convince you that their experience is relevant? Or do you have other advice for folks in this kind of situation?

Involvement in the library professional associations, volunteer work in the areas of interest, educational training and development (from full degree program to one-time workshops)

When does your organization *first* mention salary information?

√ It’s part of the job ad 

What does your organization do to reduce bias in hiring? What are the contexts in which discrimination still exists in this process?

Required training and completion of acknowledgment form before joining a hiring panel

What questions should candidates ask you? What is important for them to know about your organization and the position you are hiring for?

What is a typical workday for this position? 

Additional Demographics

What part of the world are you in?

√ Southwestern US 

What’s your region like?

√ Urban 

Is your workplace remote/virtual?

√ Never or not anymore  

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We are committed to the Mansfield Rule

[Library of Congress. Charge desk (Librarian Ainsworth Rand Spofford’s table)] LOC.gov

This anonymous interview is with someone who hires for a:

√ Special Library

Title: Manager, Information Resource Center

Titles hired include: Research specialist, assistant

Who makes hiring decisions at your organization:

√ Library Administration 

Which of the following does your organization regularly require of candidates?

√ Online application 

√ Resume 

√ References 

Does your organization use automated application screening? 

√ No 

Briefly describe the hiring process at your organization and your role in it:

Hiring goes through HR, but they essentially send me all applicants to review. While I make all decisions, HR is also involved in the interviewing process, and handles things like background checks and references. The interviewing process is generally 1.5 hours, with the first half being myself and HR, and the second half being peers of the interviewee.

Think about the last candidate who really wowed you, on paper, in an interview, or otherwise. Why were they so impressive?

They were impressive because they had a deep knowledge and interest in the field. It was clear they weren’t just applying for every job that they could, but only those that really met what they were looking for.

Do you have any instant dealbreakers?

I have not yet had one.  

How many pages should each of these documents be?

Cover Letter: √ Only One!  

Resume: √  Two is ok, but no more  

CV: √ We don’t ask for this  

What is the most common mistake that people make in an interview?

Not being prepared. Know the role you are interviewing for, and the organization. 

Do you conduct virtual interviews? What do job hunters need to know about shining in this setting?

We have, but rarely.

How can candidates looking to transition from paraprofessional work, from non-library work, or between library types convince you that their experience is relevant? Or do you have other advice for folks in this kind of situation?

We often hire librarians like this, as our field (legal) is very small in our community. Make it clear that you have an actual interest in the area.

When does your organization *first* mention salary information?

√ We only discuss after we’ve made an offer 

What does your organization do to reduce bias in hiring? What are the contexts in which discrimination still exists in this process?

We are committed to the Mansfield Rule (guidelines for hiring in law firms), as well as posting jobs within various diversity groups within our region.

Additional Demographics

What part of the world are you in?

√ Midwestern US 

What’s your region like?

√ Urban 

Is your workplace remote/virtual?

√ Some of the time and/or in some positions 

How many staff members are at your organization?

√ 201+ 

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