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Stats and Graphs: How many pages should a resume/CV/cover letter be?

It’s Staturday!

In the old survey, this was two questions, “How many pages should a cover letter be?” and “How many pages should a resume/CV be?” Invariably, people wanted to explain that the second question was invalid and resumes and CVs were *not* the same thing, and the question was *terrible.* And those people were basically right, but at that point I had already published the question and couldn’t think of a way to make it better anyway.

So when I was testing the current survey I was so blown away when Marleah Augustine suggested I should just make it a matrix question. What a simple and elegant solution.

The question is:

Question from survey. Text reads 11. How many pages should each of these documents be? Choices on the Y axis are Cover Letter, Resume and CV. Choices on X axis are We don't ask for this, Only One!, Two is ok but no more, As many as it takes but keep it reasonable and relevant, and As many as it takes I love reading.

As of August 4, 2022, 182 people have responded to this survey. Their answers to this question are:

Bar chart of question answers. Chart explained in text that follows this.

For Cover Letters

We don’t ask for this | 23 (12.6%)

Only One! | 90 (49.5%)

Two is ok, but no more | 54 (29.7%)

As many as it takes, but keep it reasonable and relevant | 17 (9.3%)

As many as it takes, I love reading | 0 (0%)

For Resumes

We don’t ask for this | 14 (7.7%)

Only One! | 19 (10.4%)

Two is ok, but no more | 68 (37.4%)

As many as it takes, but keep it reasonable and relevant | 76 (41.8%)

As many as it takes, I love reading | 2 (1%)

For CVs

We don’t ask for this | 79 (43.4%)

Only One! | 4 (2.2%)

Two is ok, but no more | 12 (6.6%)

As many as it takes, but keep it reasonable and relevant | 76 (41.8%)

As many as it takes, I love reading | 4 (2.2%)


This is one of the few questions that doesn’t include a write in option. But, I’d still love to know what you think! Comment or tweet at me, and don’t forget to like and subscribe to this YouTube channel.

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Further Questions: Since it’s impossible to address everything in a cover letter, what portions of the ads should be focused on?

This week we asked people who hire librarians

Job advertisements are often long, especially in academia, and often contain a lot of information including a position description, qualifications (desired or required), salary, schedule, etc. Since it’s impossible to address everything in a cover letter, what portions of the ads should be focused on? What tips do you have for breaking down large ads? Feel free to bring in examples from past job ads.

Laurie PhillipsIn our case, we need the person to address all of the required qualifications and any desired that they meet. In academic searches, we expect longer letters (1-2 pages). Don’t make us dig through your resume to find out if you meet the qualifications. We also look at the letter for writing skills. I’m currently conducting a search and I can tell that the people applying are not used to applying for academic positions because the letters are way too short and don’t address the qualifications. The other thing I absolute need to hear from you is why you want THIS job, not just A job. I want to hear that you understand what this job entails and that you are excited about that.

– Laurie Phillips, Associate Dean for Technical Services, J. Edgar & Louise S. Monroe Library, Loyola University New Orleans

angelynn kingStart with required qualifications, then preferred qualifications, then address any specializations mentioned (languages, subject background, technical skills, etc.) The position description is often somewhat generic and includes many duties that may not be important or even performed. If you have an MLS, the committee will assume you are functional in all the basic areas, such as cataloging and reference, but if the ad says they’d really like someone who is bilingual and can program in Java, that’s what will make you stand out.

-Angelynn King, Head Librarian, Delaware Technical Community College, Owens Campus

Christine Hage - Dark backgroundI often wonder about libraries that spend big bucks on print advertising. It is slow as you have to fit into a print publication’s schedule and still add 3 or 4 weeks for folks to apply.  It can be very expensive and you unless you run it multiple times people may miss it. I occasionally pay to advertise a non-library type job (facilities manager, accountant, IT manager) in the regional newspaper. When I want a person with an MA in early childhood development I post on The Michigan Association for the Education of Young Children’s job posting list. When I want someone with YA experience I post to PUBYAC.  Otherwise, I advertise through listservs like our state library listserv, PUBLIB, library schools, library systems, and on the pages of recruiters.

If I believe there is someone on staff that I’d like to promote, I only post the position in-house and only for a week.  If there is not a strong in-house candidate I post in a broader forum and in-house candidates can apply, just as anyone else can.

My postings refer candidates to the library’s website where they get a full job description and are asked to attach a cover letter, resume and to fill out one of our job applications online.  If they can’t do that, they don’t have the minimal tech skills for any job we offer and/or can’t follow instructions.

I usually get 20 or more applications and I seldom interview more that 7 or 8 people.

So generally I don’t pay for job postings.  I want people that are looking online, are hooked into the profession and for the most part already live in our area.  We’re fortunate here in Michigan to have two library schools and I don’t remember the last time I hired someone from out-of-state.

– Christine Hage, Director, Rochester Hills Public Library

Marleah AugustineI would suggest focusing on those parts of the ad about which you feel you can be most strongly convincing. Since an application, resume, and cover letter are all about selling yourself, pick out those pieces of the ad — especially in the description and qualifications — that you can most support with examples from your own experience. A vague cover letter is not going to speak as well about you as one that truly outlines examples about HOW you can meet the needs of that library and that position. Salary and schedule can be discussed in an interview. Focus on selling your skills and you’ll likely be better off.I would suggest focusing on those parts of the ad about which you feel you can be most strongly convincing. Since an application, resume, and cover letter are all about selling yourself, pick out those pieces of the ad — especially in the description and qualifications — that you can most support with examples from your own experience. A vague cover letter is not going to speak as well about you as one that truly outlines examples about HOW you can meet the needs of that library and that position. Salary and schedule can be discussed in an interview. Focus on selling your skills and you’ll likely be better off. – Marleah Augustine, Adult Department Librarian at Hays Public Library

Celia RabinowitzIn my opinion, and as someone who has read  A LOT of cover letters, one of the most important things to address in a cover letter is something not explicitly addressed in the job ad.  I’ll get to that in a minute.

First I would advise that you not spend a lot of time on the academic credentials.  If that is clear on your CV/resume (and it should be) there is no reason to repeat that information in your letter.  If the ad includes specific qualifications (required or desired) address some of those by using short examples if you can (from work or even a library school course).

Be selective.  Again, don’t write a lot about what is clear from your resume.  Be sure to refer to specific required qualifications and then tell me something your resume does not.  Most important – please, please, tell me why the job at my library interests you and why you think you make a good candidate.  Be sure that I can tell you took time to learn something about my library and institution.

I want to finish reading your letter wanting to know more about you. Meeting specification in the ad is important, but telling me about who you are and why you want this job might just clinch the deal.

– Celia Rabinowitz,  Dean of Mason Library at Keene State College in Keene, NH.

Thank you as always to our contributors for their time and insight.  If you’re someone who hires librarians and are interested in participating in this feature, please email us at hiringlibrariansquestionsATgmail.com.

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Guest Post: Recapping OpenCoverLetters LIVE!

Have you visited OpenCoverLetters?  This site, run by Stephen X. Flynn, presents anonymous cover letters from hired librarians, allowing job hunters to learn from their peers’ examples.  Flynn paired up with Emily Thompson, host of LiTTech, to recreate this resource in real time, face to face, with live persons.  They graciously agreed to recap the experience for today’s guest post.  Please enjoy!


On the June 24 we had the exciting opportunity to present “OpenCoverLetters LIVE!: Writing a Cover Letter that Will Get You Noticed” an interactive workshop on cover letter writing at ALA Annual 2012. This is our summary of what we did, what we learned and what we hope to do next.

What We Prepared:

We prepared a 45 minute presentation and interactive workshop. To facilitate audience participation, we created a traditional packet with a worksheet and 3 example cover letters from OpenCoverLetters.com and 2 current job ads. For the majority our time, we led attendees through reflective practice exercises, asking the following questions:

• What makes a successful cover letter sing?
• What are the keywords you should look for in a job application?
• What are qualities of the ideal candidate for a given job?
• What are 5 things that make you awesome?

 

We deliberately blocked out time after the session to allow for individual consultations and conversations.

Why We Did It:

A year ago, we were in the same boat as attendees: applying for dozens of jobs and thus writing dozens of cover letters. We wanted to provide the kind of support and tangible advice to current job-seekers that we would have found useful at the ALA we attended.

Networking is something people usually associate with job seekers, but as hired librarians, we are similarly interested in networking with other librarians, current and future. This workshop provided us an opportunity to meet library job seekers, especially those who had used Open Cover Letters.

As new librarians we also wanted the experience of presenting at a national conference. Now having gone through the cycle of submission, preparation, execution, and post-reflection, we will be even more prepared for future conference presentations, that especially in Emily’s case, will be required for promotion and tenure.

What We Learned:

It’s really hard for people to admit that they’re awesome – including the presenters. We asked everyone to put down five things, but most could only come up with two or three.

If you do a workshop for job seekers, hiring managers might show up and provide valuable discussion points. They added clarification and insight that new librarians like us could easily miss. It also felt great when the comments were more “Yes, and  . . . .” than “You guys are wrong.”

Workshops don’t record well. We wanted to have an audio recording, but since most of the time was spent with smaller groups buzzing in conversation, it’s not very listenable.

Sometimes you don’t need slides in a workshop. We could have just used Poll Everywhere and been good. We had to keep running up to change the slide. It would have been better to just have a space for the attendees to post comments.
Don’t forget to give out your business cards. We had them on the table in front, but we both got so into the workshop that we forgot to invite people to take them.

What We’re Planning for the Future:

At the end of the session we conducted an informal and anonymous assessment. Our most frequent suggestion was for more time: 45 minutes simply flew by. We are exploring ways to expand our workshop to a larger and more diverse audience, and for a longer period of time. We want to give attendees a chance to delve into the process more meaningfully and hone their cover letter writing skills.


Emily Thompson was born in Helena, MT and worked as a costume designer in Texas and an  English teacher in South Korea and Taiwan before she became a librarian. After getting her MSI at the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor in 2011, she started as the Learning Technologies Librarian at SUNY Oswego. Now she spends her day exploring apps, researching gadgets, and teaching students how to get the most out of their studies. She also can’t believe she gets paid for such a great job! Her podcast, LiTTech posts every Wednesday at EdReach.us (and you can also find it on iTunes and Stitcher).  You can contact Emily at emily.thompson@oswego.edu or on Twitter at @librarianofdoom.

 

Stephen X. Flynn is the Emerging Technologies Librarian at The College of Wooster.  He founded Open Cover Letters following his own (successful) job search, in order to provide job hunters with something other than generic examples.  The innovative site landed him a place as one of Library Journal’s 2012 Movers & Shakers.  Flynn also earned his MSI at the University of Michigan, where he specialized in Library and Information Studies and Information Policy.  In addition to Open Cover Letters (on Twitter at @OpenCoverLetter), he blogs at sxflynn.net and tweets at @sxflynn. You can also contact him at sflynn@wooster.edu.

 

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